You Might Be an Independent Fundamental Baptist if…

you might be an independent fundamental baptist if...My writing tends to be somewhat heavy and serious so every once in a while I like to add some humor to lighten things up a bit.  Please don’t mistake this for a lack of respect or an attempt to minimize the seriousness of the abuse that happens among the Independent Fundamental Bapitsts.  This is simply an attempt to bring some humor to the blog for the reader’s enjoyment.

Inspired by Jeff Foxworthy’s You Might Be A Redneck If… I came up with a similar list of items for the IFB.  See if you recognize any.  If you have others please feel free to share in the comments section… Read the rest of this entry »

Joe Lusk Deception – ‘Independent’ Deception Revisited

independentJoe Lusk (AKA JJ Lusk), associate pastor of Hillcrest Baptist Church, recently came to the site to comment and attack us for speaking out against the Independent nature of the Independent Fundamental Baptists. Attempts to engage him in discussions failed so the next step is to reply publicly in this format. I don’t really care at this point if he returns to have a discussion. I’m writing this because I want to make it known that those who come here to voice their disagreement and then run off and hide, refusing to engage in dialogue will be called out. These types of intimidation tactics will not go unanswered.

Below you will find Joe’s comments and my rebuttals broken down into an easier to follow format. Read the rest of this entry »

Tithe 10% or Punishment, Your Choice

tithe 10% or else you will be punishedI received an email recently from a site visitor who had some questions about the IFB’s teaching on Tithing and I wanted to address the questions and answer them on the site for all to read. Thanks for the great question!!!  Please find the message below along with my reply:

Hello Friend. I love your website….it has helped me so much I can’t even begin to tell you. Your articles on tithing are very informative. Do you go to church now? Are there churches that don’t teach tithing? It seems that every time I visit a church I feel let down because of the tithing issue. It isn’t that I don’t want to give…I do. I consider myself generous. It’s just that it bothers me when they begin to teach that we must give 10 percent or we will be punished. Where are the churches that don’t teach this? I feel depressed today. Thanks.

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Christian Landmarks?

christian landmark churchI have been thinking lately about the topic of Christian landmarks. I will admit that this is not one of the “normal” things I think of when I think of the IFB, but it is definitely a teaching that I have heard all my life. The Bible verse that is most used to “support” this teaching is Proverbs 22:28. Deuteronomy 19:14, 27:17a and Proverbs 23:10 are also used. These verses out of the English Standard Version (ESV) say:

  • “Do not move the ancient landmark that your fathers have set.” –Proverbs 22:28

 

  • “You shall not move your neighbor’s landmark, which the men of old have set, in the inheritance that you will hold in the land that the LORD your God is giving you to possess.” –Deuteronomy 19:14
  • “Cursed be anyone who moves his neighbor’s landmark.” –Deuteronomy 27:17a
  •  “Do not move an ancient landmark or enter the fields of the fatherless,”–Proverbs 23:10

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Romans Road Deception

Romans Road

Romans 2:23

Perhaps some of the most dangerous deceptions in our churches currently center around the salvation message.  For obvious reasons we are very concerned about some of the methods that the IFB uses to convey the gospel.  Recent discussions with a colleague about this topic lead her to voice concern about the “Romans Road” method of witnessing which was prevalent in both of our experiences of the IFB.  This Romans Road Deception could be one of the most dangerous and potentially harmful around.

The “Romans Road” appears to have been coined by Jack Hyles, at least he has taken credit for coming up with this particular soul winning method. From a sermon that was preached in Hammond, IN on June 28, 1970 entitled “There Remaineth Yet Much Land to Be Possessed,” Hyles said:

“By the way, you folks who don’t come on Wednesday night don’t know this, but about twenty-two years ago, in a little East Texas Church, I came up with a little plan of presenting the plan of salvation called “The Roman Road” whereby you take verses contained in Romans and show people how to be saved using Romans 3:10, and Romans 3:23, and Romans 5:12, and Romans 5:8, and on and on. I termed it, “The Roman Road,” and from the “Roman Road” I wrote the little book, “Let’s Go Soul Winning.”  http://www.jackhyles.com/muchland.htm

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Do Baptists Make Lousy Christians?

The following is a contribution by: H.A. Parker.  You can find out more information at pastorsinknead.wordpress.com

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A tremendous effort to suppress criticism is ongoing fight in the Christian world, specifically for the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist denomination. The reason why this title goes with the Baptist label is primarily because this is the same group that heralds itself as the heroes of true Christian Orthodoxy. Like any other sectarian group in the Protestant fold, there are some significant things this group contributed; however, unlike the other denominations, these accomplishments are not necessarily positive ones. If anything positive were to be said on behalf of the Baptists, these actions are far and few in between. Before discussing the negative things this group has done in the name of Christianity, let’s examine some of the positive things first.

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IFB Sermon (Points 4 & 5)

This is part 3 of an IFB sermon critique.  The reader should consider reading the introduction to this series and Part 1 if he/she hasn’t already.  The introduction can be found here and Part 1 here and Part 2 here.  Remember that the sermon will be in regular font and the author’s comments/critiques will be in italics.
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IV. Fulfill the Will of God.

Fulfill the will of God. I said everyday, just about, I have somebody come up and say what shall we do. What shall we do? We’re having marital problems. We’re having work problems. We’re having children problems, whatever. What shall we do? What shall we do? Here’s another question I hear real often. “Preacher, how can I know the will of God for my life?” How can I know the will of God for my life? That’s a good question isn’t it? Can I encourage you? In the meantime, until you know the will of God for your life, do the will of God for your life. Read the rest of this entry »

IFB Sermon (Points 2 & 3)

This is part 3 of an IFB sermon critique.  The reader should consider reading the introduction to this series and Part 1 if he/she hasn’t already.  The introduction can be found here and Part 1 here.  Remember that the sermon will be in regular font and the author’s comments/critiques will be in italics.
 
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II. Stay in the House of God.

Stay in the house of God. They stayed together. He says, “They continued in the apostle’s doctrine and fellowship.” {He’s referring to verse 42 of the text passage.} They stayed together. Beloved, we need the encouragement of each other. We need the preaching from this old pulpit. Stay in the house of God. You say, “Preacher, I kinda go Sunday morning and Sunday night. Sometimes, I even get back for Wednesday night. I’m just about to get churched out.” No. You’re about to get churched out. (Laughs) Just kidding! {No he wasn’t. He rarely kidded about anything.} Um, you need to be in more church. You don’t need less church. You need more church. Can I tell you something? This is just between me and you. We’ll keep it a secret. Don’t tell the folks that aren’t here. Read the rest of this entry »

IFB Sermon (Point 1)

This is part 2 of an IFB sermon critique.  The reader should consider reading the introduction to this series if he/she hasn’t already.  The introduction can be found here.  Remember that the sermon will be in regular font and the author’s comments/critiques will be in italics.
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I. Stay in the Word of God.
Stay in the Word of God. Whatever comes your way. Whatever heartache comes your way, whatever trouble comes your way, whatever trial comes your way, stay in the Word of God. In verse number 32 it says, “They continued steadfastly in the apostles doctrine.” They stayed in the Word of God. They stayed in the preaching of the Word of God. They stayed with the Word of God. So whatever you do, whatever else you do, whatever the rest of the solution is, start here by staying in the Word of God. May I remind you, that the Word of God has counsel for every relationship you have in life? The Word of God will tell you children in here how you ought to behave towards your mom and dad. It’ll tell you teenagers how you ought to honor them and respect them and how you ought to behave towards mom and dad.Do you know the Word of God will tell you how you ought to behave on your job? Whether you’re the employee or the employer, the Word of God will tell you how to behave in those relationships. The Word of God will tell us as a church how to behave in the relationships that we have here in the House of God. The Word of God has the answer, Beloved.

IFB Sermon (Introduction)

As I have been thinking about different things that came across the pulpits of my IFB churches, I came across some old VHS tapes of IFB church services. My dad and I used to videotape every church service that was held, every time the doors were open, at one of the IFB churches I was a part of. This was done so that the shut-ins would be able to watch the church services, since they were not able to attend them. Unfortunately, we did not make copies of every church service. We gave each video to the church each week and then would not see it again. During the last few weeks of our time there, we stopped giving the videos to the church. Because of that, I have a few sermons in my possession that were preached at this IFB church.

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Define Cult…

I’ve written before discussing the IFB as a cult trying to flesh out the characteristics of a cult and see if the IFB fits the profile. I recently received a question from a curious reader about the Independent Fundamental Baptist denomination as a cult and as I was considering the questions I began to realize that the more I understand what a cult is the more I’m beginning to see that the IFB fits the profile of a cult.  Below please find the questions and my reply which may help us as we make efforts to define cult more precisely. Read the rest of this entry »

Memoirs of a Recovering Fundamentalist

My name is Cassandra and I am a recovering fundamentalist. I have been free from my former IFB group for two months, two weeks and three days.


You may be thinking, “I think she is on the wrong site” or “Get real. Recovering fundamentalist ?” because this probably sounds more like something you’d hear at a group therapy session for individuals suffering from a more serious form of addiction, not from a former “church” member. Sadly, I must admit that while I used to be a part of an IFB group, I was also a religious addict. While there may not be any yellow page listings for clinics or groups available to help individuals such as my self, religious addiction is a very serious matter. And it wasn’t until my departure that I was able to self-diagnose and begin down the road of recovery. Let me first start by saying that I have no personal vendetta against my former group which is why names will not be mentioned. Nor do I think that all IFB groups are evil or on a secret mission to corrupt mankind (or dehumanize womankind for that matter). What I do know is that what I experienced in my former IFB group has shown me the devastating effects of an authoritarian system when one individual has control, completely and unchecked. While this type of control is not isolated to IFB groups, the potential is greater for a totalitarian system to emerge due to some of the main facets and doctrines that govern most IFB groups. Nine years of experiences can in no way be condensed in a few short paragraphs. So what I offer is IFB life: the abridged version. Think for a moment 1611 KJV in pocket sized Cliff’s Notes form. Exactly. Read the rest of this entry »

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