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  1. Jamey

    Wayne,
    This is an excellent article! You wrote:

    “Another aspect of FPM preaching that I find disturbing is the effect of the guilt trip. The preachers always say things like, “There is no faith in $5 a week, or $10 a week.” You will often hear them say to give up your sodas, coffee, or dining out, and use that money for your Faith Promise Missions giving.”

    I completely agree. My pastors were always urging us to give bigger and better than we had the previous year. We were also encouraged to give up soda, starbucks, dining out, etc. They always had a Missions goal that we were expected to meet.

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    • Wayne

      Yes, I have been in churches that set a goal each year, but my current church only expects us to exceed the previous year. It is phrased to say, “Do more this year than ever before for missions”. One thing I didn’t mention in the article is that we are expected to increase our giving each year. Giving the same or less means we are not increasing in faith.

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  2. greg

    Wow…..Excellent! I have never seen FPM broken down like this, and didn’t realize this tracked right back to Oswald Smith.

    We had missions giving month and was in Oct each year. I would take the phamphlet they handed out, and would try to go through it, and it never made any sense to me! I would actually get frustrated about it, because it SEEMED that everyone else was GETTING it, yet I wasn’t! I was always reluctant to PLEDGE any amt, because I didn’t want to lie, if I wasnt’ able to afford it one month, but the pressure was on because they had to budget for the missionaries (so did I for my household) so I would feel guilty about it, I would pray hard about it , the MOG said to pray about it and the Lord would place a figure in my head that I could afford. This is starting to make me sick as I type this. You want to know something? MOG in the U.S. are gonna have an awful lot to answer for, guilting folks into making, in some cases, horrible financial decisions, forcing them into financial ruin.

    Wayne thanks alot, I learn alot on this site.

    God BLess!!

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  3. Ken Qualls

    I strongly believe in tithing and willingly and generously giving. After all, every church has bills to pay if they are to stay open and function adequately. However, I too have heard many misuses of scripture to coerce people to give more and more whether or not they could afford it. The old “give ‘til it hurts then give ‘til it quits hurting” bit.

    I am a pastor and I have never encouraged people to give more than they could afford. I have never made people feel guilty about the amount they gave. I taught what the Bible really says about giving and left it up to them and God.
    From childhood I have been a thither and a giver. I have often triple tithed. I have also had my power turned off and had late fees and other expenses related to not paying bills because I had given my money to the church. I have gone without food and other necessities for me and my children because God doesn’t always pay us back dollar for dollar each time we give. I still love to give, but I don’t rob my family or the people to whom I owe money. God doesn’t expect or command me to either.

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  4. greg

    Pastor Ken – You said “I strongly believe in tithing” and being a pastor, I’m assuming you teach tithing to the congregation. I was wondering what portion of the NT you might refer to, in order to teach tithing?

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  5. Brian

    Very interesting… I never understood where Faith Promise started. At the IFB I was at, they based how many missionaries they were going to support based on the Faith Promise of the year. They said the money would go directly to the missionary, not to a central office where admin fees would be taken out before it went to the missionary. This was the selling point they used for Faith Promise. On, the other hand, I see how a pastor can take advantage of this system. I believe in supporting missionaries, but, as alluded by the article, is this the best way to do it?

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  6. Julia Jones

    Organized Religion is a hustle. They take in billions and pay no taxes. Then the clergy resort to all sorts of unethical behavior to get more, more, more money.

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  7. MikeW

    Wow.. We have faith promise at our independent Baptist church but without all the guilt. “Between you and the Lord” is what is mentioned about what we wish to give. I am fortunate to not have a pastor who is marketing giving.

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